Classicwatch Vintage Watches

Dear Forum,

I am a newby to this forum but has had 3 JLCs in my collection for a while, Master Mariner 60s, Memovox 815 and a Valjoux 72 Chrono. Now I just brought these two onboard, but I find it quite difficuklt to get mor info. I would appreciate any support in where to look. Thanks in advance
M

Sub second one has a P480/C movement with serial 659276
Center second one has a P478/C movement with serial 855223
Stainless steel and measures 33.5mm w/o crown

When are they produced, are there a specific "model name" for these, have they come with a crown with JLC logo from the outset?

Approx. 1950 and 1952. Not sure what the model #s are though!

Model number for the one on the left is E165. Please see the link below:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1900

There is a an old JLC catalog picture in there.

Nice watches!
gatorcpa

Thanks for help! Super forum!
How could I potentially find out model on the sub sec one?